Oprah: When you were
at his home, there was a time when you were at his home after he had moved
to Milwaukee, I know we’re skipping a lot here.
Lionel Dahmer: My mother’s
Oprah: At your mother’s
home. And you had gone to look at a box and he had said, “Don’t
open the box," because their was what, pornography in there?
Lionel Dahmer: I had found some pornographic material prior t that and I thought there was pornographic material…
(title: Lionel Dahmer,
Jeffrey Dahmer’s father)
Lionel Dahmer: Well, I don’t know, what do you mean a little off?
(title: a little off:
Oprah: Exhibiting unusual behaviour.
(title: Exhibiting unusual
Lionel Dahmer: Interested in pornography, there’s probably a lot of young men that are interested. It didn’t occur to me that that was greatly different. In other words I often thought of him as being very, very shy
(title: very, very shy: gay)
having feelings of inferiority
(feelings of inferiority: faggot)
you know looking at pornography,
it didn’t occur to me…
Oprah: So when you opened
Lionel Dahmer: …
anything greatly strange.
Oprah: You didn’t
see that there was anything to be greatly concerned about?
Lionel Dahmer: Well I
found, my mother had found the box. It was unopened, it was locked. And
I asked Jeff to open it.
Oprah: Thinking there
was going to be porn in it. And he opened it and what was there?
Lionel Dahmer: He resisted
Lionel Dahmer: I insisted,
he got made. He tore up the birthday cheque I gave him, that same day
it was his birthday.
Oprah: How old was he?
Lionel Dahmer: He was
in his middle to late twenties. And he said, "Can’t I have
just one square foot" — that’s how big the box was —
"of privacy?" Let’s wait until tomorrow morning and I’ll
open it then because my mother was there and he said let’s not create
a scene I’ll open it and I’ll show you it’s what you
think. I still went downstairs after a tool to open it and grabbed the
box and he said "Wait, please," and I acceded. I felt the feeling
of empathy as he was so shy and he just felt he couldn’t have any
Oprah: When he finally
opened the box, what?
Lionel Dahmer: I didn’t
open the box, no. He brought it down the next morning, and there indeed
were pornographic materials in there which satisfied me.
Oprah: Because that’s
what you thought was there.
Lionel Dahmer: Well frankly
Oprah I don’t know what I would have done if I would have opened
the box, forcibly opened the box and seen what was in there.
Oprah: What was in there?
Lionel Dahmer: A human head.
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